Hello I am new here and I would like some info, can you put 25x10x12 mud lites on the front of a stock outlander with out changing wheels and with out spacers?

hello, new to the forum, just purchased my 2015 renegade about 2 weeks ago, and absolutely love it!!! one of the first mods i want to do is change the tires.

i know i want outlaw radials but can’t make a decision on the 27s or the 28s.

i don’t want to add any kind of lifts, or spacers and don’t want to have to trim my fenders and don’t want any kind of rubbing from the tires

I’ve done some research and some people say 28s will fit with no rub issues or lifts, others say they have to either trimmed the fenders or use a heat gun to push them forward

i want the 28s but if they can’t fit without any other mods or rub issues then i will have to settle for 27s.

does anyone know for sure that 28s will fit with no issues???

also if anyone has any pics please post i would love to see how they look!

thanks!

Does anyone know if the 27" blackwater evo will work on the 2015 outlander 800 xt without modification or should I stick with the 26"?

Also, would you recommend these tire over the mud lite XTR for general use?

So far I have heard nothing but good for both tires, just wanting to get an idea of what everyone thinks.

Thank you in advance for your help and suggestions!

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Getting for our first trip this year to Royal Blue I bought my wife the MSA M21 Beadlocks and after much thought bought 30x10x14 Blackwater Evolutions. We have a big rocky desert trip this summer planned to Sedona through Grand Canyon area so a tamer mud tire was out. Rock, dirt and hard pack was in.

The Evo tires turned out to be the exact height of the Silverbacks. Measurement was taken at highest lug point of each tire with Silverback still on vehicle and bearing weight.

During…

After. The measured pressure at each tire is 4.9lbs. Almost no visible tire pooch. The ride however was hugely different. The lugs can still be felt on concrete but the ride is 10 times smoother.

Doesn’t really stick out a whole lot further. The widest part of the new tires front and back are covered by the fenders of the XMR. Barely.

Looking down over RH side.

Back tire RH side. The wider rim can be seen here. The Evo tire itself is almost the exact same overall width as the 9" Silverback. Because of the extended side lugs on the SBack it is much wider than the 9" body of the tire.

Backside…

The overall width at the front tires was 50.5". The M21 comes with a 0 offset so its a 3.5,3.5 rim. I thought the overall effect would be wider but it wasn’t.

Getting for our first trip this year to Royal Blue I bought my wife the MSA M21 Beadlocks and after much thought bought 30x10x14 Blackwater Evolutions. We have a big rocky desert trip this summer planned to Sedona through Grand Canyon area so a tamer mud tire was out. Rock, dirt and hard pack was in.

The Evo tires turned out to be the exact height of the Silverbacks. Measurement was taken at highest lug point of each tire with Silverback still on vehicle and bearing weight.

During…

After. The measured pressure at each tire is 4.9lbs. Almost no visible tire pooch. The ride however was hugely different. The lugs can still be felt on concrete but the ride is 10 times smoother.

Doesn’t really stick out a whole lot further. The widest part of the new tires front and back are covered by the fenders of the XMR. Barely.

Looking down over RH side.

Back tire RH side. The wider rim can be seen here. The Evo tire itself is almost the exact same overall width as the 9" Silverback. Because of the extended side lugs on the SBack it is much wider than the 9" body of the tire.

Backside…

The overall width at the front tires was 50.5". The M21 comes with a 0 offset so its a 3.5,3.5 rim. I thought the overall effect would be wider but it wasn’t.

Getting for our first trip this year to Royal Blue I bought my wife the MSA M21 Beadlocks and after much thought bought 30x10x14 Blackwater Evolutions. We have a big rocky desert trip this summer planned to Sedona through Grand Canyon area so a tamer mud tire was out. Rock, dirt and hard pack was in.

The Evo tires turned out to be the exact height of the Silverbacks. Measurement was taken at highest lug point of each tire with Silverback still on vehicle and bearing weight.

During…

After. The measured pressure at each tire is 4.9lbs. Almost no visible tire pooch. The ride however was hugely different. The lugs can still be felt on concrete but the ride is 10 times smoother.

Doesn’t really stick out a whole lot further. The widest part of the new tires front and back are covered by the fenders of the XMR. Barely.

Looking down over RH side.

Back tire RH side. The wider rim can be seen here. The Evo tire itself is almost the exact same overall width as the 9" Silverback. Because of the extended side lugs on the SBack it is much wider than the 9" body of the tire.

Backside…

The overall width at the front tires was 50.5". The M21 comes with a 0 offset so its a 3.5,3.5 rim. I thought the overall effect would be wider but it wasn’t.

So I just ordered some 29.5 outlaw 2s and put them on some msa m20 wheels and I go to put them on and my stock lug nuts are not long enough! So what lug nuts do I need to order to get these things bolted up?

So I just ordered some 29.5 outlaw 2s and put them on some msa m20 wheels and I go to put them on and my stock lug nuts are not long enough! So what lug nuts do I need to order to get these things bolted up?

Any good reviews or pics on the new outback max thinking bout running terms or outback max so any good reviews would help out