First off, first post, so hello. Eastern Canada here.

So, have a 2010 Brute 650i. Been a great bike, for the first 2/3 of ownership I was riding with a guy who I got along with great, same style, liked to ride and not stand around for hours talking and drinking beer. So, racked up the miles….but I don’t regret any of them. I’m lucky enough to have several club’s trail systems within a 30-minute trailer from home, and I can leave from the camp on the bike and be on a couple of them in short order….hence, a shade over 10,000 kms on a 2010 ATV

Thinking on a new bike, and the summer deals that I see advertised are looking pretty good. We have pretty rough, rocky trails around here, and having just had the typical mid-40’s rotator cuff rebuild back in January, I’m thinking the power steering will be a very welcomed feature.

Alone, I’ll have no trouble downsizing to a 420. It will have more than enough power to haul me around, and I have no need for speed…would much rather enjoy the ride.

My question is with riding 2-up. And….don’t take this the wrong way, but with 10,000 km on the current bike and a fair portion of it being 2-up, I am aware of the safety concerns and adjustments in riding that need to be made when you have someone in a lay-z-boy sitting behind your rear axle. So, safety and stability concerns aside…..will the 420 have enough snort to 2-up? I’m about 220, and so is the passenger.
When riding 2-up it’s easy riding, relatively flat trails, dirt roads, and ‘maintained’ trails…usually it’s the Mrs on the back, and the little dog sitting in the side compartment of the 2-up seat…so pretty tame riding. If we do get to a nasty washout or any steep climbs, I stop and the passenger walks. I err on the cautious side, as a result, 10,000kms incident-free.
With no passenger I often end up on slightly tougher trails or off-trail exploring….for that sort of use, I’m sure the 420 is just fine.

Comparing apples to apples….the Brute has no performance mods, no lift (except the inch gained by flipping the rear hubs upside down), and stock 25’s (but upgraded to Bighorns).

Obviously a 420 isn’t a 650-twin and I don’t expect it to be. But I’d like to be sure that it would have the grunt to be able to ride 2-up around the camp, through some easy trails, take a few dirt roads to the country store for an ice-cream in the evening, etc.

Another thing…I think I saw some threads on 27’s, or bigger…can I assume that there will be no issues (clearance-wise) with tossing the …24’s?? that it comes with and putting 25" Bighorns on it without having to lift, heat, bent, space…..anything?

There you have it. Can’t wait to hear the results.

Oh, and yes….I could buy a Rincon…but I’m liking the Rancher….for now.

My 97 Xplorer400 has had problems starting. It will pull start just fine, I have replaced the battery and confirmed proper voltage, I have replaced the solenoid and now have replaced the starter. It still will not electric start, it tries to start but seems like there is not enough power, it only turns over a couple of times very weekly then there is a click and all power (headlight) goes off for about 5 seconds then another click lights back on but still won’t start. It will start right up when pull starting. Any ideas? what is the little power block that is in the black plastic cover above the solenoid?

My 97 Xplorer400 has had problems starting. It will pull start just fine, I have replaced the battery and confirmed proper voltage, I have replaced the solenoid and now have replaced the starter. It still will not electric start, it tries to start but seems like there is not enough power, it only turns over a couple of times very weekly then there is a click and all power (headlight) goes off for about 5 seconds then another click lights back on but still won’t start. It will start right up when pull starting. Any ideas? what is the little power block that is in the black plastic cover above the solenoid?

I have a 02 trx 90 with all parts but the cdi and coil engine must go whole! it has nerf bars on it and a custom exhaust. text me for availability of parts and prices. will send pictures upon request. 541-740-2352 text only. also have a 2003 kx100 parting out if anyone is interested. thanks

I’m so aggravated and was wondering if anyone here has any input. I’ve had no issues with the Outlander until this past weekend. Here’s what’s happening:

Last week, I had my local Can Am dealer install EBC Sever Duty brake pads (front and rear) on my ’09 Outlander 800R XT. These pads replaced the B.R.P. brake pads (which I never cared for). I took it out this past Saturday morning with the new pads installed and everything was going fine until about three miles into my ride. As I was riding down a dirt road, I got up to about 30 MPH, at which point I let completely off of the throttle. I didn’t touch the hand or foot brake, just let off the throttle. All of a sudden, I hear the most incredible grinding noise. I had know idea what the heck it was and became extremely nervous. I stopped, got off the ATV, and looked underneath to see if something got caught. Nothing was there. I got back on, got up to about 25 MPH and let off of the throttle again, not touching the hand or foot brake. Again, the grinding was teeth grinding.

Took it back to the dealership and duplicated the noise for them to hear. They had it for a few days and finally came back to me telling me that the tech seems to think the pads were getting hot. The tech then put a set of front and rear B.R.P pads on and the noise disappeared. I told him to really look over the machine and make sure it wasn’t a driveshaft phasing issue. He told me everything else looked to be fine. The grinding noise was so bad, to me, it sounded like the drive shaft was going to seize up and fall off and the universal joints were going to explode. It sounded like metal gears were grinding together.

I find it very hard to believe that brake pads would make that kind of noise. As fellow Outlander owners, have any of you experienced this issue? Why would EBC pads do this and not B.R.P. pads. Any questions or comments welcomed. It just doesn’t make any sense to me.

Thanks everyone!

I am going to try and snorkel my Outlander 1k myself however I do not like rerouting all the vent lines or the way it looks. Has anybody seen what the mud n wheels diffs look like? They have a vent breather thing on them, does anybody know where to get them? Had any issues with them?

I am going to try and snorkel my Outlander 1k myself however I do not like rerouting all the vent lines or the way it looks. Has anybody seen what the mud n wheels diffs look like? They have a vent breather thing on them, does anybody know where to get them? Had any issues with them?

hi its a 2012 420 rancher
water pump leaking out vent hose will i need to replace the water pump shaft too as well as the mechanical seal ?

hi its a 2012 420 rancher
water pump leaking out vent hose will i need to replace the water pump shaft too as well as the mechanical seal ?

I am looking at this as an option to help with ground clearance when riding two up on my 570. I was thinking HD springs, but a person mentioned this option and I have no idea how it works and how to do it.

Has anyone ever done this? Anyone have instructions on how to do it? Any disadvantages or risks of doing this? Does it have to be PVC? Can it be steel pipe?

Interested to hear your opinions and experiences.

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