Somewhat narrowed it down to two options;
Superwinch terra 45 or the Viper Max 4000
has to be steel cable, terra has 55′ max has 65′
gear ratio terra 191:1 vs max 136:1
terra off amazon prime $223 max off there site $269
sure I could get a better price on the max with a vendor.
water proof is important anything else I should be looking at?
Anyone that has used either please chime in.