Category Archives: Suspension

My Bandits…review and setup

I am an ex motocrosser and new to UTVs. I have a general working knowledge of suspension, though far from an expert. I post the following just for informational purposes.

When I decided (the first ride) that I needed new shocks for the RZR, I did what I always do; research. The long and short of it brought me to Bandits…great reviews, good price point, perceived quality, and accessible owner. I bought them and I am very happy with them and the service I received. Being in a hurry to get them on and ride; I just put them on at the delivered preload, put the compression clickers in the middle of the range, 11 clicks, and rode. Very pleased, huge and noticeable difference over stock. Better handling, more clearance, smoothed out ride, etc. The build quality is excellent and I can’t imagine a better product at the price point. My only issue (known issue, told its a Polaris quality control issue), like others, I had to grind/file some on the A arm and shock bottom up front to get bolt through.

I should add, before I added the Bandits, I swapped the factory rubber for 27 9×12 Kanati Mongrels all the way around. I highly recommend a quality radial to suit your riding as a first mod. It’s a cost effective mod with great benefits. Better ride, cornering, and over all handling.

All that said, several weeks later, it was time to fine tune my shocks. So, once again, I did what I do; research. I was looking for someone who rode like me, already did the work, and was happy with their settings. No luck. The bottom line is that there is no standard, just a wide range of adjustments. No way around it, it would be trial and error. What I wanted to accomplish was a plush ride, good cornering, and minimal bottoming. What follows is what I tried and what I wound up liking.

I removed the front sway bar…initially, felt strange. Not tippy, more leany…That went away quickly. After several hot laps on my woods trail, I knew it was gone for good. Now, it feels great, solid cornering, and I know both front wheels are making contact even in aggressive cornering. Definitely recommend! (make yourself spend some time with it off).

As for preload, I was anywhere from 0-2.5” up front and 0-3.0” in the rear (I measured with a caliper from the inside top of threads to the top side of spring). I didn’t worry about sag measurements, as I was within common acceptable preload ranges. I let the riding dictate my final settings. Like the stock shocks, 0” (just enough pressure to keep the springs from rattling) provided the plushest ride and stability, but at the expense of bottoming. If all I rode were fire roads and pavement, I would have kept it there, with 3 clicks on compression. However, I needed more bottoming resistance for the woods. I kept making adjustments until I topped out at 2.5” front and 3.0” rear. A little too stiff and car a little to high for me. I wound up at 2.0” front and 2.5” in the rear. That gives me 12” of clearance up front measured at the back of the A arm and 11.25” in the rear measured at the front of the A arm. I currently have 5 clicks on the compression all the way around. Good clearance, great handling, good ride, and good bottoming resistance. I may go a few more clicks on compression. I am currently running 15 PSI in the Mongrels (started at 10). I ride fast, tight, rocky, rooted, rutted, NE PA trails. We are around 430 lbs in the cab and 50 lbs in bed. I love my current setup and couldn’t be happier with my results.

I know this was a long read, I tried to provide the info I was searching for, but couldn’t find. Hopefully, this saves someone some time and trial and error (even though that is half the fun).

New Turbo Fox Shocks Swap On RZR 1000 question

Hey all, new to the forum. I have a 2 seater 2015 rzr 1000 with stock suspension on it. Just got back from a 4 day glamis trip and have come to the conclusion I need to upgrade my shocks. I have an aftermarket cage, front and rear bumper, doors, ice chest and dry storage in the bed, a little heavier then stock and I was bottoming out multiple times every ride. Guess you could say I wasn’t driving it easy haha.

So my question, which of these 3 options would i get the best bang for the buck for upgrading my suspension:

Option 1: Respring all 8 springs and add a silent crossover for $1,500

Option 2: Respring, revalve and add a silent crossover for $2,000

Option 3: Swap out my stock Walker Evans shocks for the new turbo Fox 2.5/3.0 Internal Bypass shocks with the 7/8” shaft for $2,000

Any input would be greatly appreciated!

Specific questions about Makin Trax springs on a 2010 S 800

Greetings!

Let me just start by saying that I did some forum searches and read some stuff. I got about 18 pages into the Makin Trax "testimonials" thread, and there was just so much chaff to sift through, I could not find the bits of wheat I was looking for. Got tired of looking, so I hope you don’t mind me asking directly instead.

Basically, I want to know which kit to buy, and would like some advice on adjustment and the sway bar. So here is my background:

I have a 2010 RZR S 800 with about 3700 miles. I’m still running the stock Fox shocks/springs, and I’ve sagged a lot in the rear (the RZR, and me, yes) and have compensated some by adjusting the preload. I weigh 220 lbs, the wife weighs 180, and I carry about 25 lbs of tools and gear in the trunk box. I want to optimize the ride for when we’re both riding. The wife can’t handle the ride being too bumpy. I bought her a suspension seat, but that is not quite enough, so I am ready to make some changes and spend some money to get a smoother ride.

I do not ride dunes (much). I do not jump. I ride service roads that are full of potholes, and mountain/forest trails that are full of jeep ruts, boulders, huge tree roots, stumps, etc. When on the service roads, I ride about 35 mph. When on the rough mountain trails, usually 20-25. I hit things hard. But the priority is softening the ride on service roads.

I have heard that disconnecting the sway bar helps a lot with ride smoothness, but that one needs progressive springs to offset the body roll. However, I have also heard that progressive springs, while softening the bigger bumps, tend to amplify the smaller bumps. I am not sure the wife would be happy with that.

I imagine that the choppiness would be mitigated by the valving dial on the Fox shocks, but not sure to what degree. Should I start at the most open setting, or the most closed setting, or the middle?

I also would like to know where I should start in the preload adjustment. The stock setting was about 1/3 from the top in front and roughly in the middle in the rear. With Makin Trax springs, where should I set the preload for the above mentioned passenger and cargo load?

So once again, to summarize: For a 425-lb load in a 2010 RZR S 800, to soften the potholes on service roads but still handle boulders and tree roots at 20mph well…
1. Which spring kit should I buy?
2. Should I disconnect the sway bar – again, this is an "S" 800 model?
3. Where should I set the valving adjustment screw to start with?
4. Where should I set the spring preload to start with?

Thank you in advance for taking the time to write a detailed, well thought out response.

Adjusting King shocks

To adjust the ride height I loosen the pinch bolt and use the supplied adjuster pin wrench.

Clicker on top of the reservoir to adjust the compression

If I remember from some fox shocks I had a while back there was an adjustment with a small flathead toward the base of the shock to adjust the rebound, is this the same for the king shocks to adjust the rebound? If not how do I do that?

Do have all the right to make the adjustments?

My Rzr is in storage right now so I can’t look at the shocks and I’m pulling it out this weekend to work on it. I want to make sure I’m prepared as time will be limited.

Any other adjustments that I should make besides compression, rebound and ride height? I’m not looking to get super technical, this is a family ride more than a race car and my kids will be with me 90% of the time. Any suggestions on compression and rebound settings for desert riding?

Afordable racing suspension

I’m going to start racing next year in New England on mx tracks. So I’m addressing the susension. Not sure if I’m racing a 900s or xp1k. Either way, Im not looking to spend $3-4k on shocks, but looking to better the stock suspension. What’s out there. Are the aftermarket spring kits enough? Looking for more or less better handling.

Afordable racing suspension

I’m going to start racing next year in New England on mx tracks. So I’m addressing the susension. Not sure if I’m racing a 900s or xp1k. Either way, Im not looking to spend $3-4k on shocks, but looking to better the stock suspension. What’s out there. Are the aftermarket spring kits enough? Looking for more or less better handling.

what shocks for installing s conversion

I’m doing an s conversion on my 800 rzr and stuck on the which shock to run s model fox or I am currently finding lots of 900rzr fox piggy back shocks available…
which ever route I need to go do you guys suggest is a lift kit needed for correct shock placement (angle) or will stock location be ok??

Any other tips are welcome thank you

what shocks for installing s conversion

I’m doing an s conversion on my 800 rzr and stuck on the which shock to run s model fox or I am currently finding lots of 900rzr fox piggy back shocks available…
which ever route I need to go do you guys suggest is a lift kit needed for correct shock placement (angle) or will stock location be ok??

Any other tips are welcome thank you