Test drove one today and I’ll say coming from an 2011 900 Xp with 88 hp the s is really strong. One wasn’t as strong as other, one just lit the tires up on asphalt. I drove the turbo one first so I was surprised by the s. You can tell the shorter wheel base ride isn’t as good as Xp but all I can say is wow on both of them. My wife rode the xpt with me and ask for a cigarette and she has never smoked.