Category Archives: Hunterworks

Yamaha new 5 speed info

I can’t verify this but heard from very reliable source

The new tranny will be a 5 speed with a dual clutch design

Best way I can describe it is if you are familiar with the Honda ATV manual foot control tranny, it is manual but no clutch, let off gas switch gears

No idea how they would shift it but electric shift and paddle shift would be a great idea.

The better news to me would be 112 hp would have much better chance to get to the ground than anything belt driven which we know loses.

Time will tell, as far as business is concerned I want it to have a belt and a flyweight style clutch.

Not sure how to eat off one of these new yamaha yet but have a deposit on one now.

Todd

Dalton Clutch Kit wins BITD Vegas to Reno!!!

The owner of Dalton sent me an email last night telling me the winner of the BITD Vegas to Reno race was running a Dalton 1000 XP Clutch kit.

Remember the winner of the Baja 500 winner this year also was running a Dalton too.

Why is this important? When you have two of the most grueling conditions and you need your vehicle to make it, belts to last and have the most power where and when you need it you need the right clutch kit and it looks like Dalton is it.

However that does not mean they are just for racing, a clutch kits job is to put the engine in the RPM where it makes power at the right time and to adjust for mods you might have done such as larger tires etc.

Todd

Dalton Clutch Kit wins BITD Vegas to Reno!!!

The owner of Dalton sent me an email last night telling me the winner of the BITD Vegas to Reno race was running a Dalton 1000 XP Clutch kit.

Remember the winner of the Baja 500 winner this year also was running a Dalton too.

Why is this important? When you have two of the most grueling conditions and you need your vehicle to make it, belts to last and have the most power where and when you need it you need the right clutch kit and it looks like Dalton is it.

However that does not mean they are just for racing, a clutch kits job is to put the engine in the RPM where it makes power at the right time and to adjust for mods you might have done such as larger tires etc.

Todd

Speed/RPM Rule of Thumb

This is something I came up with troubleshooting peoples clutching issues and helps to focus on what the real issue is.

This is not 100% but dang near it.

Low vehicle speed and low RPM almost always a lack of power for some reason and almost never clutch related.

Low vehicle speed and high rpm almost always clutch related.

The only time low speed and low engine speed is clutch related is when you are extremely off on clutching and the weights are just simply too heavy for the application. The way that works is, they move out too fast due to centrifugal weight advancing the belt too fast and keep moving it out until full shift out occurs too soon. Kinda like shifting a 5 speed car into overdrive too fast then you can’t overcome it.

Outside that pretty much it will always be a low power issue, could be something actually wrong with vehicle like low fuel pressure, low compression to something like way too big of tires on vehicle and causing a bad heavy load. All of these are low power issues. Stupid example, pulling a boat with your RZR is low power issue the same as low engine compression is. Both cause power to go down. You would be surprised what a dirty air filter will do too.

Low speed and high RPM are as mentioned really always 100% of time a clutch issue. If say normal top speed is 75 and it is now 73 could be the tuning somewhat but if like 65 and hitting the limiter, you certainly have a physical issue with your clutch like flat spotted rollers in primary or secondary, spider nut loose and spider backed off etc.

So small rpm issues, is clutch tuning, large ones are actually physical issues.

I put this up here to help people with either issue to get them started in the right direction and not waste time and money on the wrong thing.

Also, I cannot stress enough, when doing clutching it should be the last thing you do so you can get it dialed in right. Meaning, don’t do a kit then add 34" tires in same day same time in your shop. You will think it is your clutch causing you low power and it will really be your new heavy tires.

I also can’t stress enough, you should always right before you do a clutch kit do a top speed, top speed RPM and shift phase RPM test just as it is and the day you do your kit.

When you run into issues, the first thing I always ask is what did it do before?

If it won’t go faster than 65 now with kit and you didn’t do a speed run before and you never been over 50 before the way you ride, then it will be hard to convince you it is not the kit and you have something wrong and the only way to figure it out is to take all the kit out and put stock stuff back in and do the test. That is double work so make sure you do it first.

I really didn’t intend to get too deep into clutching just wanted to help you focus your attention when you have one of these two conditions and this applies whether you have a clutch kit or not, stock vehicle or not.

Todd

2016 RZR Clutch Change Info

Was able to go through the 2016 RZR microfiche and below is what I can find so far and please no one hold my feet to the fire, the microfiche is not 100 always.

2016 XP1000 and XP4 1000 no change in clutching that I can see. The XP 1000 is actually not on the microfiche but the XP4 1000 is I am assuming no change for the XP 2 seat. Same belt as last year

1000 S model, all new secondary clutch not seen before with square secondary rollers called square tied pucks on the outside of clutch and still round ones on the helix on inside, same primary clutch and belt as the 1000 XP

900S model, same everything

1000 Turbo, all new everything, belt, primary and secondary. Will it work on a XP? No idea, even if physically fits, the springs weights etc would not match the XP model

This is what I have so far, I will edit this and update it as I know more.

Todd

2016 Gates RZR Belts in stock!!!

The microfiche is available for the 2016 models now, I did all the research this am.

The simple answer is, same 1000 belt as last year except the 1000 turbo.

No Gates belt for the 1000 Turbo

So the new 1000S and XP41000 all use the same belt as last year

The 2016 900 any model all use the same last year belt so once again same Gates belts as last year.

Link to the belts

Polaris RZR XP 900, Polaris Ranger 800 – Gates ATV/UTV Clutch Belts

Thanks,
Todd

2016 Gates RZR Belts in stock!!!

The microfiche is available for the 2016 models now, I did all the research this am.

The simple answer is, same 1000 belt as last year except the 1000 turbo.

No Gates belt for the 1000 Turbo

So the new 1000S and XP41000 all use the same belt as last year

The 2016 900 any model all use the same last year belt so once again same Gates belts as last year.

Link to the belts

Polaris RZR XP 900, Polaris Ranger 800 – Gates ATV/UTV Clutch Belts

Thanks,
Todd